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Why are D&D films… “D&D” films, as a substitute of one thing extra particular?


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As a result of the repeated theme was “this is one other group of bigoted people, treating him badly simply due to his pores and skin shade!” Like his species is not 99.9999% evil, and actually monsters from kids’s tales to the floor individuals.

Within the books, that occurred, however, first, Drizzt was for essentially the most half fairly understanding of it, precisely as a result of, sure, he is aware of his individuals are evil… and second, the comedian books type of compressed time… Not by way of the story, however simply in how briskly you expertise it. You may get by means of the comics so quick that it looks as if that is some extent that is repeatedly being harped on, nevertheless it does not really feel that manner within the books practically a lot.


As a result of the repeated theme was “this is one other group of bigoted people, treating him badly simply due to his pores and skin shade!” Like his species is not 99.9999% evil, and actually monsters from kids’s tales to the floor individuals.

Within the books, that occurred, however, first, Drizzt was for essentially the most half fairly understanding of it, precisely as a result of, sure, he is aware of his individuals are evil… and second, the comedian books type of compressed time… Not by way of the story, however simply in how briskly you expertise it. You may get by means of the comics so quick that it looks as if that is some extent that is repeatedly being harped on, nevertheless it does not really feel that manner within the books practically a lot.

I do not know; I’ve learn a couple of of the books, possibly 9 or 10, and it does get fairly outdated, fairly quick.  One of the best ones IMO had been the  first Drizz’t centered trilogy, those printed after Icewind Dale, however chronologically earlier than.  Principally as a result of they had been higher written, although Salvatore by no means turned what I might contemplate a “good” author.  However the later books simply get extra excessive and also you get the kitchen sink method that passes for world constructing within the Forgotten Realms.  After which Drizz’t is actually a celeb which is mildly fascinating for possibly a part of a guide, however then that will get overdone.  The tip result’s satisfactory D&D fiction, however that is a reasonably low bar.  Kudos to Salvatore for persevering with to churn it out.  I suppose he has a pleasant home and good gymnasium tools consequently.


As a result of the repeated theme was “this is one other group of bigoted people, treating him badly simply due to his pores and skin shade!” Like his species is not 99.9999% evil, and actually monsters from kids’s tales to the floor individuals.

Within the books, that occurred, however, first, Drizzt was for essentially the most half fairly understanding of it, precisely as a result of, sure, he is aware of his individuals are evil… and second, the comedian books type of compressed time… Not by way of the story, however simply in how briskly you expertise it. You may get by means of the comics so quick that it looks as if that is some extent that is repeatedly being harped on, nevertheless it does not really feel that manner within the books practically a lot.

I do not know; I’ve learn a couple of of the books, possibly 9 or 10, and it does get fairly outdated, fairly quick.  One of the best ones IMO had been the  first Drizz’t centered trilogy, those printed after Icewind Dale, however chronologically earlier than.  Principally as a result of they had been higher written, although Salvatore by no means turned what I might contemplate a “good” author.  However the later books simply get extra excessive and also you get the kitchen sink method that passes for world constructing within the Forgotten Realms.  After which Drizz’t is actually a celeb which is mildly fascinating for possibly a part of a guide, however then that will get overdone.  The tip result’s satisfactory D&D fiction, however that is a reasonably low bar.  Kudos to Salvatore for persevering with to churn it out.  I suppose he has a pleasant home and good gymnasium tools consequently.

I wasn’t defending Salvatore as an awesome author, myself I gave up after the primary three collection (Though I did like his one in every of his different Forgotten Realms collection, the one with Cadderly) solely saying that one particular subject felt somewhat totally different within the books than within the comics.


As a result of the repeated theme was “this is one other group of bigoted people, treating him badly simply due to his pores and skin shade!” Like his species is not 99.9999% evil, and actually monsters from kids’s tales to the floor individuals.

Within the books, that occurred, however, first, Drizzt was for essentially the most half fairly understanding of it, precisely as a result of, sure, he is aware of his individuals are evil… and second, the comedian books type of compressed time… Not by way of the story, however simply in how briskly you expertise it. You may get by means of the comics so quick that it looks as if that is some extent that is repeatedly being harped on, nevertheless it does not really feel that manner within the books practically a lot.

I do not know; I’ve learn a couple of of the books, possibly 9 or 10, and it does get fairly outdated, fairly quick.  One of the best ones IMO had been the  first Drizz’t centered trilogy, those printed after Icewind Dale, however chronologically earlier than.  Principally as a result of they had been higher written, although Salvatore by no means turned what I might contemplate a “good” author.  However the later books simply get extra excessive and also you get the kitchen sink method that passes for world constructing within the Forgotten Realms.  After which Drizz’t is actually a celeb which is mildly fascinating for possibly a part of a guide, however then that will get overdone.  The tip result’s satisfactory D&D fiction, however that is a reasonably low bar.  Kudos to Salvatore for persevering with to churn it out.  I suppose he has a pleasant home and good gymnasium tools consequently.

I wasn’t defending Salvatore as an awesome author, myself I gave up after the primary three collection (Though I did like his one in every of his different Forgotten Realms collection, the one with Cadderly) solely saying that one particular subject felt somewhat totally different within the books than within the comics.

I get it; I can not touch upon the comics having not learn them and disliking comics typically.  I simply do suppose it will get outdated quick within the novels.  And I agree that the “Cleric Quintet” is a reduce above most Salvatore fare.


Really, my criticism is form of extra that to this point that D&D films have gone to virtually admirable lengths to keep away from even “cherry choosing some names and tidbits of lore”, when there’s a lot of it there to make use of.

Oh however they do borrow.

The primary film had Gold and Purple dragons, a Beholder, they vveeerrryyy loosely primarily based in on a lesser D&D setting, and I am certain numerous spell and merchandise names get sprinkled round.

Very similar to an Anime utilizing Catholicism, they strip the aesthetic, and drop all the pieces else.


Really, my criticism is form of extra that to this point that D&D films have gone to virtually admirable lengths to keep away from even “cherry choosing some names and tidbits of lore”, when there’s a lot of it there to make use of.

I imply, truthfully, no less than the 2 D&D films I’ve seen and may bear in mind sufficient of to touch upon, you could not show to me they even had been D&D films. Simply… crappy B-movie generic fantasy schlock.

The primary and third transfer couldn’t. Solomon has sure rights over D&D, however he has none over different IPs like Dragonlance or particular characters. So there have been limitations and wotc was in all probability being cautious of giving him any extra stranglehold than he already had. wotc until simply current couldn’t make any D&D film or TV and even Cartoon media with out Solomon’s involvement.

A tangled mess that appears to have been sorted. Although early on the brand new film nonetheless had his identify related to it.

The center film had the least involvement of Solomon and is essentially the most D&D of the set.

No concept how they had been capable of do the CGI film. Possibly as a result of it was handed off as a sport? Scourge of Worlds interactive film.


Oh however they do borrow.

The primary film had Gold and Purple dragons, a Beholder, they vveeerrryyy loosely primarily based in on a lesser D&D setting, and I am certain numerous spell and merchandise names get sprinkled round.

Izmeer is its personal setting. Apparently loosely primarily based on Solomon’s D&D marketing campaign. It’s used within the first and third films.

The second film is ready “someplace” and whereas they name again to the primary film. Its clearly not. That and so they point out a couple of Greayhawk places so WTF film and one way or the other has one of many villains from the primary film carry over.

Concessions to Solomon? Who is aware of. Its the very best of the trio and the one he has the least involvement in.


A sensible D&D film would have the actors breaking the 4th wall and rolling cube for his or her subsequent motion.

😉


A sensible D&D film would have the actors breaking the 4th wall and rolling cube for his or her subsequent motion.

😉

So, ‘The Players’ films? :)


Aint’ that the destiny of hottest villians? They begin out cool and mysterious, they get common, they get over-used and run into the bottom.

Or they get became a hero as a result of some hack author needed to play with all of the toys.


I suppose, if I needed to sum up my core criticism in regards to the D&D films (past simply that they are really terrible films), it could be this: there’s little or no D&D in D&D films.


I suppose, if I needed to sum up my core criticism in regards to the D&D films (past simply that they are really terrible films), it could be this: there’s little or no D&D in D&D films.

My favourite D&D film was The Barbarians from 1987. It has nothing to do with D&D lore nevertheless it was apparent that whoever wrote the film had really performed the sport. It was D&D because it was not D&D as it’s purported to be.


 


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